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the debt ceiling. if republicans had gone into this issue and said they would not raise the debt ceiling unless they got cuts, there would have lost that the raid at the end. big loss that debate. john boehner and paul rand did a great job together. you cannot govern from that office, you but you have to be very careful about high-profile last-minute negotiations. i've worked in the white house and three administrations. the president has a tremendous institutional advantage in these kinds of fights. what republicans have to do is avoid these fights, the straps that they are laying. provide an alternative through passing legislation, just to show this is how they would govern if they had the powers of the presidency and the senate. and be careful. there are some rough edges. host: some are not strategy as far as moving the debt ceiling ahead. guest: if they had gone ahead with it, it would have been politically cataclysmic. it was the worst percival -- worst possible ground to make their point. president obama 1. i think it's absolutely crucial for the future of the country that you cann
, and then the european credit crisis, as well as d.c.'s own fight over the debt ceiling. and then we were set to take off, all of a sudden we saw a big tumble in the stock markets and we saw job growth go back down again. i believe in august 2011 the initial report was zero net jobs. now they eventually revised that up to 100,000, but still an amemic growth rate. host: we continue our conversation regarding the 157,000 jobs added in january in the unemployment rate back now at 7.9% with patrick rice of politico. donald from statesville, north carolina is our next caller. donald is on our line for republicans. caller: hey, how you doing. i'm calling from statesville, north carolina, and we got some bad news here. freight liner who was in cleveland, north carolina, is going to lay off 750 employees. trim systems that supported them, they're closing their plant, 65 employees down to two. but here's my question, you know. when they do these job numbers, lowe's down here is going to hire 45,000 part time workers. does that count in the job numbers? or those are not even included? host: sorry about that donald
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